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PostSubject: Re: STALKERSOUP Mod za SoC   STALKERSOUP Mod za SoC - Page 20 Icon_minitimeMon 6 May 2013 - 23:35

Objašnjenje greške oko radijacije
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Radiation
OK MY BAD.....

I spaced out on this one for sure...

When I added the radiation_factor to the options I made a mistake in the delta assignment back to the player and compounded it by mistake...
i..
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Flickering Monsters
Problem was in the xr_spawner, surprise creatures were getting stuck in a respawn loop due to an error in the hardcore alife option.

109930_2 is in the prepatch fixes, does not effect saves so keep on playing.
a ovdje je i taj poslednji fix - TB3D_Prepatch_fix_109930_2.7z
Sve su zakrpe isto tako u StalkerSoup-BalkanZona Dropbox folderu!, jedino još nisam sredio sa Mega..

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PostSubject: Re: STALKERSOUP Mod za SoC   STALKERSOUP Mod za SoC - Page 20 Icon_minitimeThu 9 May 2013 - 20:37

Update iz StalkerSoup zone
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There is an issue with unterm that has some npc (I think killers) that are immortal and shouldn't be. They are using the description from one of the key character descriptions, dAVROs is checking it for us.

I have been playing with perceptions and finding out some really interesting stuff:
AMK, LURK, OGSE and other mods dissable most of the perceptions that make this game awsome...
I suspect that that was the only way they could keep the npc stable but it makes the game more like an FPS and not very realistic.

The reason that so many npc ignore creatures even when attacked has to do with this: 0.0 in the ignore monster threshold and panic threshold making them stand there and do nothing. I am establishing a combination of traits that really get reactions from all npc, challenge is to keep them where they need to be for quests. Many of the new quests are piggybacked on existing restrictors which is another problem, if you complete the quest the restrictor is attached to then the restrictor is removed and the other npc will now roam free.
A good example of this is in Cordon; the carpark assault group is held there by the dogs/boars restrictor at the viaduct. If you go and kill all the dogs and boars before you go to the cave then when you return from the cave the carpark assualt will be over as soon as you get the quest from sid. Kalmyak and others are also effected by this problem, still determining what restrictors they are attached to.
I am going to create new restrictors for these locations so this will stop happening.

The fix I will post today will contain a few fixes and new settings for perceptions that are working much better, not perfect yet but with feedback I should get them honed in quickly.

There are some quests still not working that I am also addressing but some of these are really messed up or crossed with other quests and will take some time to rework.

Will give another update before it is posted

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PostSubject: Re: STALKERSOUP Mod za SoC   STALKERSOUP Mod za SoC - Page 20 Icon_minitimeThu 9 May 2013 - 21:06

NPCovi znaju ignorirati i anomalije....
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PostSubject: Re: STALKERSOUP Mod za SoC   STALKERSOUP Mod za SoC - Page 20 Icon_minitimeFri 10 May 2013 - 0:57

PoWeR wrote:
NPCovi znaju ignorirati i anomalije....
I ne samo to!..
Update_2
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Combat ignore is a bunch of...

I am getting things working but what a pain...

to get npc to react to creatures when they are close or attacking takes some real fine tuning. It just isn't very realistic to see a bloodsucker attack a guard and the guard just stands there, problem is that it is real easy to have quests dissrupted.
I used the carpark for a test, if I leave the enemy thresholds at 0.0 like they are now then everything is fine. If I use values like OGSE then everything goes nuts, attackers start immediately and the bandits run away...

I now have the thresholds at 0.0001 and what a difference, the attackers stay put unless a dog runs right through them, then they attack it and go sit back down and wait. I can attack the carpark and the attackers stay put, if I run back toward the hill and the bandits chase me then the attackers come to my aid. If I can shoot a bandit in the arm twice and make him drop both weapons then he will run away but only for cover and then look for a new weapon. I have yet to have a permanent runaway bandit like we used to have.

I am also working on perceptions so that your visibility and ability to sneak are improved.

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I am also working on perceptions so that your visibility and ability to sneak are improved.
Sjajne vesti cheers , to je stalkeru nedostajalo!!!
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PostSubject: Re: STALKERSOUP Mod za SoC   STALKERSOUP Mod za SoC - Page 20 Icon_minitimeSun 12 May 2013 - 12:31

Posle kraćeg odsustva nešto "malo" iz StalkerSoup zone
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I nekoliko informacija u posve novom "Inventory" sistemu
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PostSubject: Re: STALKERSOUP Mod za SoC   STALKERSOUP Mod za SoC - Page 20 Icon_minitimeSun 12 May 2013 - 16:34

Jel' to znači da treba da krenemo iz početka?

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Uputstvo za StalkerSoup prevedeno na srpski. Link:
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PostSubject: Nije potrebno   STALKERSOUP Mod za SoC - Page 20 Icon_minitimeSun 12 May 2013 - 17:01

coolkingeye wrote:
Jel' to znači da treba da krenemo iz početka?

To bi trebalo samo ako bi htio da ti "respawn" sistem radi kako treba!.

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PostSubject: Re: STALKERSOUP Mod za SoC   STALKERSOUP Mod za SoC - Page 20 Icon_minitimeFri 17 May 2013 - 16:59

Stigla je nova zakrpa za StalkerSoup

109931
Patch is up, new game required or most new content as well as respawns will not work
did not get to the arena problem yet, will work on it next

Patch
Now that the patch is up I will start updating my site with information about this patch and the special systems that have been created.

There was a BIG flaw in the way the respawners were working and the save files have always been bad, just were failing to load in the past. Then 1099 changed the way it was saving the data to prevent the crashes, this uncovered the packet corruption.
I built fixes for old saves but it has finaly gotten out of hand.

A new game is the only way that the respawns will be correct. There is also new content that will only exist if you start new.

now I start work on the Collector as my main focus, I will still fix the remaining issues in stalker but now the two are the same so it's time.

my first task is to finaly get the info portions correct for the collector start so that all NS is complete and does not interfere.
At the start of the collector the actor should only have my dynamic content along with dAVROs Collector treasure hunt and killers.
I am taking portions from mods that you have suggested/submitted for content/ideas.
I now have a few talented people submitting quality work to help clean things up, release is now nearing... thanks to all!

Weather pack: I need to update it as it breaks the weather system and also causes crashes in some levels with fixed weather.

I have updates for texture packs to post soon as well.

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Svi linkovi za zakrpe su na ovoj temi - StalkerSoup-instalacija i upute
I sada se može skroz ovaj link - mega.co.nz #F!5JR2ETzb!L9pZWVlxGEFis6SjaoniYA doći do cijelog foldera StalkerSoup na Mega!


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<string>StalkerSoup uputstvo(prevedeno):google.com</string>
<string>StalkerSoup instalacija(upute): SS_Tutorijal</string>
<string>---BalkanZona-Imgur: Stalkersoup - Fotke---</string>
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PostSubject: Re: STALKERSOUP Mod za SoC   STALKERSOUP Mod za SoC - Page 20 Icon_minitimeFri 17 May 2013 - 20:36

Ovo još nisam doživeo!!
STALKER SOUP se sam deinstalirao i to kompletno, ništa nije ostalo ama baš ništa!
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PostSubject: Re: STALKERSOUP Mod za SoC   STALKERSOUP Mod za SoC - Page 20 Icon_minitimeFri 17 May 2013 - 22:50

djordje29 wrote:
Ovo još nisam doživeo!!
STALKER SOUP se sam deinstalirao i to kompletno, ništa nije ostalo ama baš ništa!

Ako si imao StalkerSoup na HDD sa sistemom, pođi(obnovi) na prošlu tačku, koju je napravio Win za obnovu sistema!(System recovery)

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Džaba, ja sam namestio komp da mi radi System recovery samo unazad par dana, nemam ja onu listu tj. naj stariji povratak na staro mi je 14. 05. a ovo se garant desilo pre tog datuma.
Ja SOUP nisam igrao od 23. 04. kad sam ti se žalio da imam problema sa RAM memorijom, čekao sam da izađe ta zakrpa koja će pegla zauzeće memorije.
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@djordje29

Ustvari... sa svakom nesrečom dolazi i nešto sreće scratch geek
jer si mi baš 22.04. slao na mail jedan sejv, pa nije baš sve izgubljeno bounce
ukratko, možda je u neku ruku bolje da si instaluješ posve novi StalkerSoup...
Ali kod ponovne instalacije je bolje da ne stavljaš StalkerSoup-a više na sistemski HDD..
- Ps. ovo je najbolje za sve, koji prave novu instalaciju StalkerSoup-a!

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Pa kad nema SSD, šta ću moram na HDD.
Pa dobro, sveža instalacija uvek dobro dođe. geek
Nego mi je i sejvove obrisao, ne mogu da verujem.
Da li je moguće da je to sam komp uradio baš zbog onog baga oko RAM memorije, da je to gušilo ceo komp i da je on jednostavno rešio da se sam toga otarasi kako bi sačuvao ostatak sistema?
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Da li je moguće da je to sam komp uradio baš zbog onog baga oko RAM memorije, da je to gušilo ceo komp i da je on jednostavno rešio da se sam toga otarasi kako bi sačuvao ostatak sistema?

Ne.. posve sam siguran da to nije moguće!, prije bi bilo, da imaš problema sa HDD a da još neznaš Arrow Question

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Hmm da i to je moguće, mada ne bi trebalo. Odradiću ja jednu proveru, za svaki slučaj.
Nego, šta ti misliš, da ja sad kad je ta situacija takva kakva je, da sačekam da se pojavi prava verzija moda 1.0, ipak je ovo beta?
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djordje29 wrote:
Ovo još nisam doživeo!!
STALKER SOUP se sam deinstalirao i to kompletno, ništa nije ostalo ama baš ništa!
Pojasni malo ovo "deinstalirao".Ako imaš instaliran Stalker SoC regularno, bez obzira na kojoj particiji bilo, onda može samo da se deinstalira cela igra.Ili ja nisam dovoljno pratio temu, pa sad ima neka verzija Soupa sa instalerom.Koliko se sećam ti imaš .db verziju supe, sa dodatnim "gamedata" folderom i izmenjenim folderom "bin".
Ako si sam ubacivao u koren igre .db fajlove sa DropBoxa ili SkyDrive, kao ja, a sad tih .db fajlova nema, onda si u Zoni Sumraka ili si pio neku opaku brlju, pa se sad ne sećaš šta si uradio.
Ako imaš neku verziju sa instalerom, moguće je da si nehotično ti pokrenuo uninstal.exe , ili je to neki program uradio umesto tebe.Davno sam imao neke slične "ZoneSumraka" kad sam koristio neke speedup programe instalirane, koji koji su mi pravili sranje po kompu.Od tada to na moj komp nije ulazilo, niti će.Sam uzme da čisti HDD i obriše mi baš ono što nikako nebi trebalo da mi obriše i ikonice po desktopu i slične budalaštine.

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Nego, šta ti misliš, da ja sad kad je ta situacija takva kakva je, da sačekam da se pojavi prava verzija moda 1.0, ipak je ovo beta?
Ako se može vjerovati TecnoBaconu na riječ, onda se sa ovom poslednjom zakrpom došlo do stanja, kad se neče više mnogo mijenjati sam sistem igre(respawn-er itd.), nego če se lijećiti sam StalkerSoup po pitanju: - fali koji fajl, zamijeniti koje texture, ispraviti text, itd...
a zbog tih radnji nije potrebno da se zapoćinje nova igra.
- Mada ja neznam tačno, što če da bude posle izmijene All.spawn fajla Arrow Exclamation Question Wink

@purke62
Ja sam skoro posve siguran da ima greška na HDD, pošto je djordje29 imao StalkerSoup na sistemskom HDD, pa se lako može dogoditi da sistem označi jedan dio diska kao prazan i počne sa zapisovanjem novih fajlova prijeko tog dijela!,
mada ima i nekolicinu malware-a koji ti sakriju fajlove pod postavke -Hidden, System, Administrator rights!, pa u samom sistemu uopšte više na vidiš fajlove koji su skriveni na taj način.

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<string>Stalkersoup-Link: Stalkersoup-MEGA</string>
<string>StalkerSoup uputstvo(prevedeno):google.com</string>
<string>StalkerSoup instalacija(upute): SS_Tutorijal</string>
<string>---BalkanZona-Imgur: Stalkersoup - Fotke---</string>
<string>TecnoBacon-OneDrive:Repository-OneDrive</string>
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Ma on je meni bio instaliran na D particiji. Ja za deinstalaciju isključivo koristim Revo tako da ne verujem da bi ja to tek tako.
Mislim da se to desilo kada sam uključio Advancd system care da mi malo očisti sistem od škarta.
Video sam da mi je obrisao Fraps i Vista service optimizer ikonicu na desktopu.
Dešavalo se da mi nestane ikona ali ceo program nikad, pogotovo ovako velik kao soup, inače, igra je original.
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Meni se jednom desilo da mi je na pola igranja Avast prepoznao FEAR kao malicious program i izbrisao mi pola fjlova iz igre,nije više bilo šanse da je pokrenem.Jesi li na automatskom update-ovanju-moguće je da je to izvor problema.
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Imam Aviru, da ona je na auto updata ali znam da anti virusi i anti spyware programi znaju da blokiraju neke fajlove u igrama, pa ista ne radi kako treba i takođe znaju da okupiraju puno radne snage RAM i CPU što je dosta izražajno kod slabijih mašina, ja njih redovno pogasim!
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PostSubject: Re: STALKERSOUP Mod za SoC   STALKERSOUP Mod za SoC - Page 20 Icon_minitimeTue 21 May 2013 - 21:30

Da ne bude odviše oftopic-a ovdje, jedan update iz zone..
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Update
So, how about the weather option? It does not change instantly when you select an option in the advanced options menu, it will transition in.

Also the ESC E environment changer has been redone to support the dynamic weather system. AMK weather is obsolete and will actually break the weather system and stay stuck on whatever weather is active.

Using the ESC E changer will be immediate when changed, this provides a simple way for modders to test their weather tweaks. You can use the test template or even create your own and add the name to the environment.ltx in the [weathers] section.

There are some weapon issues that have occured from the new all.spawn preparation, sorry, it will get sorted out quickly.

I am also fooling around with dynamic game graphs, it actually can be done. I am creating a hook that intercepts access to the game graph and injects an external graph point, it works and allows me access to the last levels so I can generate a generic graph for each of them. I am catching level 18 (Darkscape) which does not exist in the graph and providing my own points. So far no crashes and only a few fall throughs from bad culling and collision in the level build.

I hope to create a 'walk and build' system for the game graphs to allow you to create paths for npc/creatures for dynamic content to work with the 'walk and spawn' system.

Several captives are getting load outs that shouldn't, I am adding them to the no load out group for next fix.

The second bloodsucker in DV will not spawn and attack bandits at start.

Blowouts will not occur in DV until after Krysyk is done to prevent bes and demon from attacking the bandit base afterwards.

Weapons are a bit screwed up right now as an old version got mixed with the last major patch by mistake.
It shouldn't take me long to sort it out, fix some things along the way.

will post this fix soon

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<string>Stalkersoup-Link: Stalkersoup-MEGA</string>
<string>StalkerSoup uputstvo(prevedeno):google.com</string>
<string>StalkerSoup instalacija(upute): SS_Tutorijal</string>
<string>---BalkanZona-Imgur: Stalkersoup - Fotke---</string>
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PostSubject: Re: STALKERSOUP Mod za SoC   STALKERSOUP Mod za SoC - Page 20 Icon_minitimeFri 24 May 2013 - 20:47

Iz pet malih fixova, uradio sam jednu objedinjenu zakrpu,
link - TB3D_Prepatch_fix_109931_1-5.7z

i pozor! težina je stavljena na hardcore a nosivost odijela na 100Kg

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<string>Stalkersoup-Link: Stalkersoup-MEGA</string>
<string>StalkerSoup uputstvo(prevedeno):google.com</string>
<string>StalkerSoup instalacija(upute): SS_Tutorijal</string>
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Novosti iz zone...
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Weapons and ballistics
what a mess...

It has become obvious to me that the algo used for final travel ballistics is missing a range modifier for the game environment.

Think about it, real ballistics would mean that most weapons shoot way past your game vision right? Drop at 300 meters is nada for them so the engine does not even follow them after that.

Things like air resistance and tumble hardly matter at all so I think that there may be a correlation to my graph results and that issue.

Test example: Agro tower sniper.
I have the see distance set to 380m which appears to be the falloff point in the engine. I then tracked the detection vision while I walked toward them, not actually seen until 200m.
I then set my sniper aim to 10x and max distance to 3000m, I walked toward them and at 300m they opened fire, backed up and they stopped at 380m. This implies that there is a 10:1 distance compensation going on that is not being accounted for.

This proves the game distance restriction in the engine and why the snipers couldn't see you but other npc could.

SO: I am digging deeper and hope to have a complete idea on how it really works so that I can model the ballistics to compensate.

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<string>Stalkersoup-Link: Stalkersoup-MEGA</string>
<string>StalkerSoup uputstvo(prevedeno):google.com</string>
<string>StalkerSoup instalacija(upute): SS_Tutorijal</string>
<string>---BalkanZona-Imgur: Stalkersoup - Fotke---</string>
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sadd wrote:
Novosti iz zone...
Quote :
Weapons and ballistics
what a mess...

It has become obvious to me that the algo used for final travel ballistics is missing a range modifier for the game environment.

Think about it, real ballistics would mean that most weapons shoot way past your game vision right? Drop at 300 meters is nada for them so the engine does not even follow them after that.

Things like air resistance and tumble hardly matter at all so I think that there may be a correlation to my graph results and that issue.

Test example: Agro tower sniper.
I have the see distance set to 380m which appears to be the falloff point in the engine. I then tracked the detection vision while I walked toward them, not actually seen until 200m.
I then set my sniper aim to 10x and max distance to 3000m, I walked toward them and at 300m they opened fire, backed up and they stopped at 380m. This implies that there is a 10:1 distance compensation going on that is not being accounted for.

This proves the game distance restriction in the engine and why the snipers couldn't see you but other npc could.

SO: I am digging deeper and hope to have a complete idea on how it really works so that I can model the ballistics to compensate.

Ako sam dobro razumeo, to znači da te obični NPC mogu uočiti na većoj daljini nego snajperisti što pomalo nije logično. U realnom životu snajperski metak te može pogoditi, a da ni u jednom trenutku nisi ni posumnjao da tu postoji opasnost. Dok obične "borce" i ti primećuješ na logičnom odstojanju, kao i oni tebe. Zar ne bi trebalo da igra stremi ka realnosti?

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